Interstadial = warm period, like the Holocene. Yeah right! His sled obviously requires STOL and noise dampening and stealth capabilities which we cannot fathom. “So a 1% drop in solar radiation for a few days. Antarctica's rapidly melting ice has put scientists and environmentalists around the world to seriously think about its consequences. If you want to check out that narrow strip of coast where the Persians and Spartans had it out you’ll find that it’s now a broad strip with a busy road along it. A newly discovered volcano found buried beneath a thick layer of ice in Antarctica could speed up ice loss and raise global sea levels when it erupts, scientists say. This particular graph is dated 1997, (which you would have noticed, had you cared to look). However, a recent study has revealed that Arctic sea ice could disappear into the ocean in the coming 15 years This is according to a study published in the journal Nature, that compares our planet’s current condition to the ice age that occurred 127,000 years ago As per researchers, Dr Louise Sime and Dr maria Vittoria Guarino, sea ice completely melted in the last interglacial period -- which is … Homo Erectus is the character who grew a big brain when the Central American Seaway closed. So you can be confident that the statement is wrong. Several of the papers he cites show early Holocene – Altithermal – sea levels 2 to 4 meters above present day. Fantasy becomes fact becomes history. No. As part of nature we are always developing new, novel, and more efficient ways to fit with what nature has provided. : Greenland? If you have, you will be able to enlighten us all. We are very much still in a COOLER period of the Holocene interglacial. (Also see “Giant Undersea Volcanoes Found Off Antarctica.”). And here is a graph of the Iceland Sea ice index, by Jakobsen, https://s19.postimg.io/802kz6c8j/Icelandic_sea_ice_index.png. By contrast, the total effect of man-made global warming will reach 3.5 watts per square metre (but globally) only by the end of this century.”. “This, with information of a similar nature derived from other sources; the unusual abundance of ice islands that have during the last two summers been brought by currents from Davies Streights (sic) into the Atlantic. Stadial = cold period or glaciation. A 200-year cold snap 10, 300 years ago seems to have coincided with a passing slump in the sun’s activity1. [I can't see much advantage to OZ from such shipping.] Not a controversy. Cli-Sci-alarmists do so dislike history as cross reference, Any assumptions beyond that and I would lose my skep credentials. Took it from that article and my bad … Polar bears are recalcitrant not incalcitrant. Like all the dire tipping points that cannot be reversed, as long as that big fireball in the sky exists we will experience cycles of great magnitudes…..well if we manage to continue our ‘blink of an eye’ existence that is. The updated data contradict one of the most frequently asserted global warming claims – that global warming is causing the polar ice caps to recede. Its the temperatures anomalies recorded at 8 Icelandic weather stations by the Iceland Met. Glass A. Go ahead. What “indications” are you referring to, the drop in the Global Mean Temperature? It has been done before. 2. Maybe there’s something missing in your browser? It;s been the scene of star birth (google Orion nebula) and the early deaths (Supernovae) of many of the big blue stars formed at its start. We’re half the world away from home and we’ve finished the North East Passage! I just wanted it on record that the North East Passage has not been a positive experience. Maybe this is normal? Author has 1K answers and 1.1M answer views. Love this post, and the comments (which I still can’t up-thumb, by the way. http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-08-30/geothermal-power-plant-closes-deemed-not-financially-viable/7798962, 31 Aug: Bolt Blog: Another Flannery fail: geothermal project scrapped Go down to “Sea Ice” [ LH menu ] and you can scroll through a whole treasure of Arctic Ice extents and the fluctuations and changes in the Polar Sea Ice over the last few decades. It is pretty hard to measure sea-ice that might have melted 8,000 years ago. You will see seas where now there is ice. Matt Ridley in The Australian explains how every man and his dog is forecasting the doom of the Arctic sea ice, and not only have they been wrong year after year, but they all assume that if the ice all melts it’ll be a global disaster. Crew member, young Ben Edwards (age 14) writes a personal blog- 17 Aug; So, for my fiftieth blog I thought I’d say something that is possibly a little unexpected…. From the Space station the Earth has lost its blue so they may be right but as with all weather only time will tell. Or to give them a crusade to go on, so that they can “save” us by imposing their view of a utopian world on the ignorant masses. Considering it doesn’t make conclusions about “Arctic Sea ice” in general, but restricts itself to a very particular location, and also considering its chief observation is that warming/release of ice from the Arctic causes interruption to the thermohaline circulation, thus causing cooling across a large swathe of the NH, it is puzzling how you come to your conclusion, much less how you could have gotten there “clearly”. Powered by Indiatimes Lifestyle Network. The most deadly point: If you insist that it is necessary to state all the possibilities, usages and variances when making a simple, useful, and valid statement, you can complicate, confuse and compound the argument. The second graph should attract the interest of anybody sceptical enough to realise immediately that it is complete nonsense: No one lives there. The longer time series clearly shows a downward trend: https://www.climate.gov/news-features/understanding-climate/climate-change-minimum-arctic-sea-ice-extent, Poor Harry doesn’t understand basic concepts like “CYCLES”. In addition, the last 14 years have seen the 14 lowest levels of Arctic sea ice in the modern satellite record. Many of the islands, especially in the southern group are not far above sea level, and so have fresh water issues, Harvesting fresh rain water is the solution, but finding donors is the problem. I’ve fixed that. Then the sea rises – too slowly for people to really notice. Matt Ridley in The Australian explains how every man and his dog is forecasting the doom of the Arctic sea ice, and not only have they been wrong year after year, but they all assume that if the ice all melts it’ll be a global disaster. A science presenter, writer, speaker & former TV host; author of The Skeptic's Handbook (over 200,000 copies distributed & available in 15 languages). According to the Bureau of Meteorology the mass of fog and low cloud was due to significant rain activity and humidity in the region over the past few days. 35 years later – 4 degrees is still not just in the ballpark, but very very close to the values still being thrown up by the oodles of research that has ensued over the intervening years. The theoretical constructs of a pseudo-science presented as gospel, indeed much as phrenology once was. : What you describe are two attributes of Civilisation. The term “Eskimo” used by the American colonists comes from the Algonquin peoples much further south and means “eaters of raw flesh” and “peoples who live much further up the coast”. “It will without doubt have come to your Lordship’s knowledge that a considerable change of climate, inexplicable at present to us, must have taken place in the Circumpolar Regions, by which the severity of the cold that has for centuries past enclosed the seas in the high northern latitudes in an impenetrable barrier of ice has been during the last two years, greatly abated…this affords ample proof that new sources of warmth have been opened and give us leave to hope that the Arctic Seas may at this time be more accessible than they have been for centuries past, and that discoveries may now be made in them not only interesting to the advancement of science but also to the future intercourse of mankind and the commerce of distant nations.” Really, it is amazing that the climate alarmists focus on the North Pole and the South Pole. In fact much of the 20th century in California was wetter than the long term normal. This will lead to saltwater intrusion and the banning of capture of rainwater. High levels of cosmic radiation cause more mutations. Well not anymore! Also have a look at Florida between Orlando and the Atlantic coast. ————–. Doklady Earth Sciences 383A:288–291. Even with CO2 levels much lower, nature itself was perfectly capable of warming the Arctic and melting the ice way back. Runways, roads, parking spaces, tennis courts, fuel depots, and trash hinder coral growth. Wow, 2007,, you are out of date aren’t you and of course the peak in 1979. http://www.dmi.dk/en/groenland/maalinger/greenland-ice-sheet-surface-mass-budget/. Ho..Humm…Yawn…next…. Ice conditions were exceptional. Bjorck and colleagues propose that a weakening of solar activity may have caused this mini chill. Who says so and how do they know this? And has no thermodynamic impact. My 11 year old who was duly told at her ( private ) school the antarctic ice was melting due to Klimat Chang. The Australian medicos were too arrogant to be told how to treat the ulcers by the Dutch medical practitioners. The key thrust of this presentation, is access to clean fresh water. ANSWER: The North Sea Passage opened in 1817 after the Little Ice Age. Was that a 100% plus voter turn-out in some Michigan precincts? “As a result, the Navy lacks assurance that cost-effectiveness assessments for its large-scale renewable energy projects are accurate, and that appropriate investments decisions are made.”… They had maps. The idea that modern man’s evolution was helped by an ice age is an incomplete assessment of human progress. The highest temperature yet recorded is 13 °C”. Their predictive skills are truly useless. Polar sea ice trending 5% above 1979, that’s global cooling. By contrast, the total effect of man-made global warming will reach 3.5 watts per square metre (but globally) only by the end of this century. True science needs a lot less consensus, and more real disinterested investigative research. In 2020, the Arctic minimum sea ice covered an area of 3.36 million square kilometers. The radiation from any one of these or from all of them may have caused or contributed to the series of mutations leading to Homo Sapiens Sapiens of which you are an example. The “relative” refers to time periods where no FD applies. Craig thinks volcanoes are static objects. In the past century alone, the temperature has climbed 0.7 degrees Celsius, roughly ten times faster than the average rate of ice-age-recovery warming.”. : Growing ice sheets are like bulldozers, pushing rocks, boulders and other detritus into heaps of rubble called moraines. In general, Arctic winters are long and cold while summers are short and cool.”, Wikipedia. A first for the Arctic: Ice melt and open ocean north of Greenland on August 17, 2020, never before seen in the satellite record going back to 1979. Well much as it was ridiculed, it seems the Polar Ocean expedition managed to sail the NorthWest passage. Believe what you like. My thinking is that the Arctic Ocean was probably often, briefly perhaps, free of ice cover over the summer period for those thousands of years that the peoples of the Independence cultures occupied those far northern Greenland regions. And even with high modern CO2 levels, the Arctic has become colder and icier than in the past. Craig Compared to the 1980s, today's end-of-summer Arctic sea ice extent is about half. You could go in there and ask questions like that. That’s what shameful means…. An interesting place to look at past Arctic sea ice the work of J Muller on Fram Strait biodata, https://epic.awi.de/30624/1/M%C3%BCller_et_al_2012.pdf. From a cyclical perspective, the Arctic freezes and then opens. Magnetic fields in CMEs deflect cosmic rays and, essentially, sweep some of the cosmic rays away from our planet. For such an enormous volume of water it must have been deposited as ice on the Antarctic and Greenland ice caps. Europe’s Little Ice Age coincided with low solar activity. I thought the cosmic ray hypothesis was lead by Henrik Svensmark. Post with kindness. Theflickering sun may cause rapid climate change, according to a new comparison of climate records. Or you could continue to avoid any real science, as usual. Craig, That wasnt from Iceagenow they just relayed the reference site like others. If they press on quickly they might make it since the minimum summer ice occurs in mid September (2 weeks). Like so many classical spots (Ostia, Ephesus, Claudian invasion landing etc) which have moved inland the explanation is given that siltation was the cause of the retreat from the shore. Scientists studied 40 different climate models to predict the effect of CO 2 emissions on the Arctic sea-ice cover. Chemistry and to a lesser extent biology have some minor claim to science, but geology is just some weak-intellect narrative. Shimaraev, M.N., L.N. The total solar irradiance has a relative decrease in connection with FDs of the order of 10^−3, which is too small to have a thermodynamic impact on timescales of a few days”. How many ships will be loaded and lined up to go? At least the Dutch do. Indications are that we can look forward to a cooling trend for at least a couple of decades, then temperatures will rise again. I suspect the main climate refugees from the Arctic would have names like Donner and Blitzen. I recently bought (in Washington State) tires made in Thailand. But the fantasy becomes cyclic, as a new generation gets their positive strokes by debunking “the science” of their parents. I have to say, the stories of poor polar bears drowning in their hundreds have just vanished and now too much ice is recognized as a real problem for finding food, so they are marginal survivors like all Arctic species. Other researchers are less convinced. Is this a complete fallacy or first class propaganda, truth and half-truth intermingled? That is what CYCLES are all about, Harry. They speculate that the earlier instability and temperature gyrations of 12-15,000 years ago in Greenland were due to the ice shifting from a phases of regular sea ice, to being regularly ice free. and from 1980 to just before the 1998 El Nino, they look like this. open NW Passage.Re ‘Arctic temperatures,’ in Greenland, Not sure why you believe sensitivity is “declining” – initial estimates were 4 degrees. after which West Antarctica continued to gain mass for over 2,000 years Then the last intact ice shelf in the Canadian Arctic, the Milne Ice Shelf, did collapse losing a chunk of ice bigger than Manhattan to the ocean. Then you get our very own Professor Turkey who triggered a dangerous and massive and rescue mission based on his firm belief despite all the evidence, that Antarctic waters were an ice free summer holiday spot for the family. while the average Arctic summer temperature is 37-54° F (3-12° C). So What? But the Greenland Ice cores show temperatures there were hotter than today, and there are some proxies to estimate the extent of the sea ice. Look at old maps of Antarctica. “As a result, the annual mean insolation was around 5 Wm−2 larger at 80°N during the EHIM compared to present day conditions”, “The radiative forcing from a doubling of the pre-industrial atmospheric CO2 concentration has been estimated to ∼3.5 Wm−2″. It should help countries up there though. West Antarctica. Or to justify their jobs. Deprived of this source of heat, the high latitudes grow cold. It’s why ugly fashions return every couple of decades because the new generation believes they’re cool while their parents forgot to tell them opposite. ‘Experts say that the lake has entered into another period of natural shallowness, already observed in the past. but it explains the melting ice in West Antarctica that started 100 years ago Put an equal amount of ice in each. The cold from the glaciations force the changes from them to emerge fast. As for present temperatures in Greenland, papers like Chylek 2006 show that current temperatures in Greenland were about the same in 2006 as they were in 1940. h/t to Michael for spotting that the arrows on graph 2 for the MWP and LIA were incorrect. = 111 kilometers [ all the way from the Equator to the Poles ] Refuse to accept any premises. Relevant to some of Jo’s past items and to Rod McLaughlin @ # 33. As Chylek 2006 confirms, temperatures in the 1940s, similar to temperatures at present, are in both cases around 2 degrees higher than the temperature indicated by the red line on the shoddy graph we are commenting on, which is mislabelled as “present” when it is in fact at least 100 years prior to present. Thanks to both. By contrast, the total effect of man-made global warming will reach 3.5 watts per square metre (but globally) only by the end of this century. 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